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By Stefanie Olsen, News.com
Posted on ZDNet News: Feb 28, 2004 12:00:00 AM

An industry standards group has made a preliminary decision to include Microsoft's video compression technology in a next-generation DVD format, giving the company a key boost in the digital media arena.

The steering committee for the DVD Forum on Friday announced provisional approval for Microsoft's VC-9 and two other video technologies--H.264 and MPEG-2--as mandatory for the HD-DVD video specification for playback devices. VC-9 is the reference title for the underlying video decoding technology within Windows Media Video 9. The approval is subject to several conditions, including an update in 60 days of licensing terms and conditions.

The DVD Forum Steering Committee also approved a near-final version of the HD-DVD specifications for rewritable discs.

The provisional decision "ends months of speculation over whether Microsoft would be endorsed or not," said Richard Doherty, the president of Envisioneering Group, a media consultancy. "It's a good tailwind for Microsoft."

A standards win on DVDs would dramatically buoy Microsoft's ambitions to take its multimedia technology beyond the Internet. It also could give the Redmond, Wash., giant substantial credibility when it shops its codec to partners outside of the PC business.

Last September, Microsoft submitted its Windows Media Series 9 as a standards candidate to the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE)--a first for the company and a marked departure from its longtime commitment to keeping its technology proprietary.

In doing so, Microsoft set out to provide a viable successor to MPEG-2, a compression standard that is the foundation of satellite, cable, video-editing systems and DVDs. If approved, Microsoft hopes its technology will become de facto for a range of set-top boxes, professional video-editing equipment, satellite transmissions and consumer electronics.

HD-DVD is a blue-laser technology that crams much more information onto optical discs than do typical DVDs today, which use red-laser light. The format for HD-DVD, also known as high-definition and high-density DVD, specifies a 20GB rewritable disc and a read-only disc with 15GB on a single layer and 30GB on dual layers. DVDs read by red-laser drives can hold 4.7GB on a single layer and 8.5GB on dual layers.

The DVD Forum's steering committee had previously approved a near-final version of the HD-DVD specifications for read-only discs. NEC and Toshiba back the HD-DVD format.

Despite its endorsements by the DVD Forum, HD-DVD has serious competition from so-called Blu-ray technology. Blu-ray is supported by a group of industry giants that includes Sony, Hewlett-Packard and Dell. In addition, China is developing a third next-generation DVD technology.

The various formats echo the earlier video standards battle between VHS and Betamax, and it remains to be seen which will come to dominate the market.

With the DVD Forum's approval, Microsoft could have valuable leverage with technical standards bodies in other industries--such as wireless--and with SMPTE.

SMPTE is holding a digital engineering meeting in Chicago this week, and the news is being well-received, Doherty said.

The draw for Microsoft, and likely many others, is the potential money from royalties to be made if one codec becomes ubiquitous in the industry. Companies in industries such as consumer electronics and satellite communications pay license fees to patent holders each time they use a specific compression technology.

Web technology companies are unaccustomed to the magnitude of usage or pay scales associated with such implementations, given the largely free culture of the Internet. If a company's video codec is chosen for every high-definition TV set--with royalty rates of 10 cents and 15 cents per decoder and encoder, respectively--it could quickly net a fortune.

"This represents true convergence between the Internet...and consumer electronics," said Amir Majidimehr, the vice president of the Windows Digital Media division. "The industry is getting together and, for the first time, picking common technology between the two."

With the DVD Forum's provisional approval, Microsoft codecs cleared the technology bar, winning a vote for best picture quality from 19 other companies on the group's steering committee, according to Majidimehr. Members of the DVD Forum steering committee include Disney, Warner, Sony and Panasonic.

DVDs must store 2 million pixels to produce the resolution of a high-definition picture, whereas a TV-quality picture is comprised of 400,000 pixels. Majidimehr said Windows Media technology can store three to five times more information on an HD-DVD, producing a high-quality resolution with economies for manufacturers.

Now that its technology measures up, Microsoft must prove that it will provide favorable licensing terms to the industry.

Microsoft has long been feared by members of Hollywood and consumer electronics companies for its competitive practices. The thinking has been that if Microsoft were to gain a foothold in their business that it would eventually seize control by charging outlandish licensing fees for its technology.

"All those fears were on their mind," Majidimehr said. "At the end of the day they said, We're going to trust Microsoft. It does require us to be responsive in providing the kind of licensing terms that the industry can accept."

As a condition to Microsoft before it could establish VC-9 as a standard, it had to strip VC-9 of proprietary status, Majidimehr said. The company satisfied that condition when it submitted the underlying video compression technology to SMPTE last year and opened up its software to developers for the first time. Now developers can download the technical spec, build on it and not be beholden to Microsoft.

SMPTE is expected to rule on Windows Media 9 as a standard candidate within the next year.

An industry standards group has made a preliminary decision to include Microsoft's video compression technology in a next-generation DVD format, giving the company a key boost in the digital media arena.

The steering committee for the DVD Forum on Friday announced provisional approval for Microsoft's VC-9 and two other video technologies--H.264 and MPEG-2--as mandatory for the HD-DVD video specification for playback devices. VC-9 is the reference title for the underlying video decoding technology within Windows Media Video 9. The approval is subject to several conditions, including an update in 60 days of licensing terms and conditions.

The DVD Forum Steering Committee also approved a near-final version of the HD-DVD specifications for rewritable discs.

The provisional decision "ends months of speculation over whether Microsoft would be endorsed or not," said Richard Doherty, the president of Envisioneering Group, a media consultancy. "It's a good tailwind for Microsoft."

A standards win on DVDs would dramatically buoy Microsoft's ambitions to take its multimedia technology beyond the Internet. It also could give the Redmond, Wash., giant substantial credibility when it shops its codec to partners outside of the PC business.

Last September, Microsoft submitted its Windows Media Series 9 as a standards candidate to the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE)--a first for the company and a marked departure from its longtime commitment to keeping its technology proprietary.

In doing so, Microsoft set out to provide a viable successor to MPEG-2, a compression standard that is the foundation of satellite, cable, video-editing systems and DVDs. If approved, Microsoft hopes its technology will become de facto for a range of set-top boxes, professional video-editing equipment, satellite transmissions and consumer electronics.

HD-DVD is a blue-laser technology that crams much more information onto optical discs than do typical DVDs today, which use red-laser light. The format for HD-DVD, also known as high-definition and high-density DVD, specifies a 20GB rewritable disc and a read-only disc with 15GB on a single layer and 30GB on dual layers. DVDs read by red-laser drives can hold 4.7GB on a single layer and 8.5GB on dual layers.

The DVD Forum's steering committee had previously approved a near-final version of the HD-DVD specifications for read-only discs. NEC and Toshiba back the HD-DVD format.

Despite its endorsements by the DVD Forum, HD-DVD has serious competition from so-called Blu-ray technology. Blu-ray is supported by a group of industry giants that includes Sony, Hewlett-Packard and Dell. In addition, China is developing a third next-generation DVD technology.

The various formats echo the earlier video standards battle between VHS and Betamax, and it remains to be seen which will come to dominate the market.

With the DVD Forum's approval, Microsoft could have valuable leverage with technical standards bodies in other industries--such as wireless--and with SMPTE.

SMPTE is holding a digital engineering meeting in Chicago this week, and the news is being well-received, Doherty said.

The draw for Microsoft, and likely many others, is the potential money from royalties to be made if one codec becomes ubiquitous in the industry. Companies in industries such as consumer electronics and satellite communications pay license fees to patent holders each time they use a specific compression technology.

Web technology companies are unaccustomed to the magnitude of usage or pay scales associated with such implementations, given the largely free culture of the Internet. If a company's video codec is chosen for every high-definition TV set--with royalty rates of 10 cents and 15 cents per decoder and encoder, respectively--it could quickly net a fortune.

"This represents true convergence between the Internet...and consumer electronics," said Amir Majidimehr, the vice president of the Windows Digital Media division. "The industry is getting together and, for the first time, picking common technology between the two."

With the DVD Forum's provisional approval, Microsoft codecs cleared the technology bar, winning a vote for best picture quality from 19 other companies on the group's steering committee, according to Majidimehr. Members of the DVD Forum steering committee include Disney, Warner, Sony and Panasonic.

DVDs must store 2 million pixels to produce the resolution of a high-definition picture, whereas a TV-quality picture is comprised of 400,000 pixels. Majidimehr said Windows Media technology can store three to five times more information on an HD-DVD, producing a high-quality resolution with economies for manufacturers.

Now that its technology measures up, Microsoft must prove that it will provide favorable licensing terms to the industry.

Microsoft has long been feared by members of Hollywood and consumer electronics companies for its competitive practices. The thinking has been that if Microsoft were to gain a foothold in their business that it would eventually seize control by charging outlandish licensing fees for its technology.

"All those fears were on their mind," Majidimehr said. "At the end of the day they said, We're going to trust Microsoft. It does require us to be responsive in providing the kind of licensing terms that the industry can accept."

As a condition to Microsoft before it could establish VC-9 as a standard, it had to strip VC-9 of proprietary status, Majidimehr said. The company satisfied that condition when it submitted the underlying video compression technology to SMPTE last year and opened up its software to developers for the first time. Now developers can download the technical spec, build on it and not be beholden to Microsoft.

SMPTE is expected to rule on Windows Media 9 as a standard candidate within the next year.

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Unless you own a competeing company, Lets just all rejoice and buy microsoft stock.....huh? (Read the rest)
Posted by: jinxjeebs Posted on: 06/06/04 You are currently: Logged In | Log out
Oh joy Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
Buwahahahaha No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
Bwahahah..no Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
Because I enjoy spanking you little one. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
noax, go to bed little one hipparchus   | 02/27/04
DVD player turn over is about two years. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
I use Windows Movie Maker, I just don't get the link with WM9 codec hipparchus   | 02/27/04
IT's the only codec supported.. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
only codec supported by windows media player etc hipparchus   | 02/27/04
But, it's easy and already there. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
barking up trees - I make my own movies with Windows Movie Maker too hipparchus   | 02/27/04
m$ on every stained toilet paper (nt) stephen732@...   | 02/28/04
You're old player won't work for HD anyway tomaras@...   | 02/28/04
Correction- TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
bitty's head rears again zd-spam   | 02/27/04
Good thing you jumped in... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
No_Ax TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
They're Really Sweet Carl Taute   | 02/28/04
Champs? michael-t   | 02/27/04
I used the term for bobby. Don't want to confuse him. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
I know you admire me, but no reason to customize yer posts for mwa Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
Money for Microsoft:You must buy Win-XP! David Mohring   | 02/27/04
Re: acetroubleshooter   | 02/27/04
wrong stephen732@...   | 02/28/04
MS not a monopoly ??? amar_t@...   | 02/29/04
Did you actually read the article? TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
Congratulations! Fred Flintsone   | 02/28/04
Not even close! Spoon Jabber   | 03/01/04
Why? mmoneta@...   | 02/27/04
Open standards pschroeder@...   | 02/27/04
what do you mean "DVD Producers can choose" (On-VP3 is free) hipparchus   | 02/27/04
choices pschroeder@...   | 02/28/04
formats should be open ryusen   | 02/27/04
And if you had read the article.... Stewart Cannon   | 02/27/04
And if you had been awake for the last fifteen years.. Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
Locked in DVD??? Buwahahahaha No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
Nice try Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
I see you know nothing about this subject too. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
Except- TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
DRM is not open keel   | 02/27/04
Another misconception. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
hahaha V Sanders   | 02/27/04
ms media pc is ready - check it out V Sanders   | 02/27/04
what technical advantage? hipparchus   | 02/27/04
Just because you don't, doesn't mean I don't. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
care to share your.... wisdom? hipparchus   | 02/27/04
Certainly, just because your so nice about it. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
sorry annoyed by bwahahahaing hipparchus   | 02/27/04
Good business is where you find it. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
There actually IS some financial interest here for MS TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
Sorry, I can't help laughing at bobby. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
Hey, don't make yourself look like an idiot in the process though Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
Not to worry, everyone laughs at you. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
everyone lau..uh ok..that's what "everyone" was thinking Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
Bit look like an idiot? middle of nowhere   | 02/27/04
There are advantages for high-capacity DVDs michael-t   | 02/27/04
How about, easy to use? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
I can do that from my WinXP machine now and no WM9 codec in my DVDplayer hipparchus   | 02/27/04
Really, I don't think so... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
so the great thing is just not having to install windvd creator hipparchus   | 02/27/04
Windows Media PC. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
People Buy Those? nucrash   | 02/27/04
Quite true TWRX   | 02/27/04
nucrash, Yes, in fact several million so far. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
What are you talking aobut randomletter   | 03/01/04
Easy to use TWRX   | 02/27/04
Easy to use? middle of nowhere   | 02/27/04
windows doesn't have this capability yet hipparchus   | 02/28/04
You need to look at a MS Media Center PC No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
HD-DVD is a new and necessary technology edufx   | 02/29/04
International michael-t   | 02/27/04
Horse hockey, where do you folks get this stuff? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
Whatever Bit--reality check Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
Pardon me, I have to go deposit some money in the bank. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
Let me help you little one. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
OK TWRX   | 02/27/04
"Real" Officesuites?? rock06r   | 02/28/04
The Munich thing is a disaster. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
bitty's intelligence is inversely proportional to his shilling for MS zd-spam   | 02/27/04
How many pounds does software weigh? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
Time to resume michael-t   | 02/27/04
Standards middle of nowhere   | 02/27/04
Almost true. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
Standards are slippery TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
I just had a thought, good way to harm Linux. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
there was some previous zdnet story about porting wm9 codec to linux hipparchus   | 02/27/04
I'll believe it when it happens. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
ok I'm making a $45 dvd player hipparchus   | 02/27/04
But your opinion, (or mine) doesn't matter. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
my opinion hipparchus   | 02/28/04
and thanks for the discussion hipparchus   | 02/28/04
OOPS! TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
Or to put it anpother way. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/27/04
You'd better hurry zd-spam   | 02/27/04
Another one that can't see the writing on the wall. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
Slow down there, No_Ax RedHat9User   | 02/28/04
Redhat, have you seen the numbers for Halo PC? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
halo pc hipparchus   | 02/29/04
RE: halo pc CobraA1   | 02/29/04
So how much does it really cost you ask. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
VC9 will be on all HD-DVD players hipparchus   | 02/29/04
dvd codecs pschroeder@...   | 02/29/04
I know because MS posts the prices on their web site. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/29/04
oof peter you got me with that one hipparchus   | 02/29/04
Message has been deleted. Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
How many times? zd-spam   | 02/27/04
You can license the codec for Linux rg807   | 02/27/04
Try again, I see nothing concerning Linux at all. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
Read the license again moron rg807   | 02/28/04
Also rg807   | 02/28/04
Also again, you MUST buy a LICENSE. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/29/04
Moron? Is your mother here? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/29/04
No just you bit... bitty_has_no_clue   | 02/29/04
This is getting silly - Bit's right. Fred Fredrickson   | 02/29/04
To Fred bitty_has_no_clue   | 02/29/04
No_Ax, why would you want to harm Linux? Look what it is doing to TCO... Bit's_Conscience   | 02/27/04
I don't, I really don't care. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
Get Microsoft out of my life iKenny   | 02/27/04
BOOYAH!!! Bobby Sskcat   | 02/27/04
iSee iIndigo   | 02/28/04
What You Goofs Don't Realize nikoli   | 02/29/04
Read this.... iKenny   | 02/29/04
Let's get something straight... Fred Fredrickson   | 02/27/04
Exactly right. It will NOT be open sourced. No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/28/04
So you are a codec expert? rg807   | 02/28/04
Well, as you asked... No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/29/04
I think DeCSS is legal in many countries hipparchus   | 02/29/04
Umm CobraA1   | 02/29/04
I think you're confused. Fred Fredrickson   | 02/29/04
Where ARE you people shopping? Also, DeCSS and 321... TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
Exactly right bit bitty_has_no_clue   | 02/29/04
I think Im going to be sick ParadigmOdyssey   | 02/28/04
BAD! BAD! BAD!!! BitTwiddler   | 02/28/04
Why? rg807   | 02/28/04
please read the article again pschroeder@...   | 02/29/04
Did you even see a clue when you read the article? No_Ax_to_Grind   | 02/29/04
Did you even have a clue ... bitty_has_no_clue   | 02/29/04
Perhaps you don't Fred Fredrickson   | 02/29/04
And again Fred... bitty_has_no_clue   | 03/01/04
Ever been to a WiFi McDonald's? TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
Real OSes iIndigo   | 02/28/04
please read the article again pschroeder@...   | 02/29/04
In the future I see... B_HI   | 02/29/04
Do not let them do it nograin   | 03/01/04
please read the article again pschroeder@...   | 03/01/04
Kind of a steamroller affect TechDiva_z   | 03/01/04
not necessarily pschroeder@...   | 03/01/04
Will they replace the FBI Warning... Tammee   | 03/02/04
Who really cares? Unless..... jinxjeebs   | 06/06/04

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