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By Graeme Wearden
Posted on ZDNet News: Apr 21, 2004 3:52:00 PM

The increasing popularity of open source on the desktop will drive Microsoft to create better products in response, the software giant said Wednesday.

Bradley Tipp, Microsoft's national system engineer, told the LinuxUser & Developer Expo in London that competition is good for the whole software industry and will lead to better products emerging from Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft.

"The thing I like is that Microsoft does its best work and is most innovative when it has competition, so bring it on," Tipp said.

Tipp's comments were the flipside to the view expressed Tuesday by Matt Asay, director of Linux business at Novell, when he asserted that the lack of alternative desktop operating systems had given Microsoft little incentive to improve its software range.

Tipp appeared as part of a debate at the conference, where a number of players in the open-source scene, including Asay, gave their view on the future of Linux on the desktop.

Asay told the event that Linux's penetration into the desktop market will mirror the progress it made in the server space three or four years ago.

"There's probably not real competition on the desktop today," said Asay. "In a year or two years, we'll see frantic competition."

Robin Wilton, program manager for Sun's Java Desktop System group, said Linux's strengthening grip on the desktop market had many benefits.

"We will see increased choice and competition. It's a positive outcome," Wilton said.

One show attendee noted how difficult it is to buy a laptop that doesn't come with proprietary software already installed.

Jeremy Allison, of the Samba team at Hewlett-Packard, said this is a problem and acknowledged that the first thing he had done with his work laptop was to reformat it and remove Windows.

"I was annoyed that I couldn't get a refund. It's a scandal that you can't do that," Allison said.

He added that HP recently said it will ship laptops with a version of Linux preinstalled and predicted that the IT industry would soon see "much more from HP in that area."

Graeme Wearden of ZDNet UK reported from London.

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Microsoft is coming on REALLY strong...  Mike Cox | 04/21/04
But CompUSA refunds opened Windows?  IT_User | 04/21/04
What are YOU TALKING ABOUT?  Mike Cox | 04/21/04
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Re: What are YOU TALKING ABOUT?  SC-man | 04/22/04
Cut him some slack!  Yen_z | 04/21/04
Well actually  IT_User | 04/21/04
Actually CompUSA gave RedHat rebates  prong@... | 04/21/04
No refunds on open software --- ROFLMAO  g_ludlow | 04/21/04
MikeCox, BikeLocks, HikeSox, WhoCares?  AtypicalZork | 04/21/04
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Works both ways. Isn't that amazing?  Spam-ZD | 04/21/04
Line 'em up  ynotpe@... | 04/24/04
Aww Puh-Leeez, Mike  Snippy Clippit | 04/21/04
Open software vs open sorce  billr@... | 04/21/04
9.95!!!  Jack-Booted EULA | 04/21/04
Some quotes from Microsoft....  Northwolf | 04/22/04
The perfect response  IT_User | 04/21/04
And the first innovation will be...  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
Innovation from MS???  bchesmer | 04/21/04
Not a bad thought  IT_User | 04/21/04
or...  ryusen | 04/21/04
better?  dwest_z | 04/21/04
better?  seosamh_z | 04/21/04
On which particular planet is that?  bchesmer | 04/21/04
On which particular planet is that?  seosamh_z | 04/21/04
Want data, here it is...  bchesmer | 04/21/04
Everyone wins.  chiishen | 04/21/04
Oh yeah...M$...the great innovator....like the MCP !!!  harmison | 04/21/04
Cool Movie  voska | 04/21/04
No, like open office. Buwahahahaha  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/21/04
relevence == none?  ryusen | 04/21/04
Not a real office suite  IT_User | 04/21/04
M$ the Innovator ----ROFL  drichards1953 | 04/21/04
Are you listening, antitrust regulators?  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
Actually they still have monopoly  voska | 04/21/04
Numbers used as needed...  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
problem is not the monopoly, per se  auser_that_reads | 04/21/04
I disagree with you  IT_User | 04/21/04
You haven't read  Don Bradley | 04/21/04
MS Myths...or truths?  Fred Fredrickson | 04/21/04
Fred We need to read the same text the same way  Don Bradley | 04/21/04
Playing fast and loose with "myths"  IT_User | 04/21/04
Look IT_User  Don Bradley | 04/21/04
MS shills love to believe the myth  Spam-ZD | 04/21/04
OK Spam  Don Bradley | 04/21/04
An operating system includes a browser.  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
No  IT_User | 04/21/04
So there is a law defining an operating system?  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
Response to another post  Spam-ZD | 04/21/04
True to a point...  bchesmer | 04/21/04
This is good  Spam-ZD | 04/21/04
MS doesn't agree with you - you have embellished their position!  oldskool | 04/21/04
Not bundled, integrated  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
you say tomato - MS says its not integrated in the OS  oldskool | 04/23/04
Linux has replaced Unix?  IT_User | 04/21/04
Have to change some definitions, yes.  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
Unix on Desktop  mrlinux | 04/22/04
unix on the desktop  Dr. Colossus | 04/23/04
stick to the same tense...  ryusen | 04/21/04
Potential competition...  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
java didn't exist?  ryusen | 04/21/04
And we'd stop getting our paychecks, health care, etc  IT_User | 04/21/04
Java existed, but it's not a desktop os  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
either way,  ryusen | 04/22/04
Praise Linux  voska | 04/21/04
This is Propaganda  Kamakazii | 04/21/04
If Linux gets 20% of the desktop it will be too late  Michael Kelly | 04/21/04
No, it doesn't work that way.  mvaar | 04/21/04
With 90+% of the desktop market...  B.O.F.H. | 04/21/04
care?  dwest_z | 04/21/04
M$ should care  drichards1953 | 04/21/04
Strangely I agree  Chad_z | 04/21/04
Could somebody please tell me .....  wackoae | 04/21/04
How about Clippy? ...  el1jones | 04/21/04
Hey now, don't forget inovative Microsoft Bob (NT)  JonathonDoe | 04/21/04
Clippy may have to find a new job..  drichards1953 | 04/21/04
Often wondered the same myself.  FederalistPaperBoy | 04/21/04
Umm, what do you mean?  voska | 04/21/04
Oh please  Tommy Gun | 04/21/04
Say pretty please  Spoon Jabber | 04/21/04
Right on  NemesisNL | 04/21/04
Linux will NEVER overtake Microsoft  Saxonborg | 04/21/04
Lindows?!  el1jones | 04/21/04
You need more experience.  doe_z | 04/21/04
I think the point is...  PA-ITGuy | 04/21/04
3.1 was my personal experience.  doe_z | 04/21/04
how to use a PC?  PA-ITGuy | 04/21/04
You misunderstood.  doe_z | 04/21/04
Couldn't agree more...  are-you-thinking | 04/21/04
How do I say this...  PA-ITGuy | 04/22/04
Most people today don't know how to install stuff  voska | 04/21/04
A cousin told me this...  doe_z | 04/21/04
If all you want to do is use your computer,  ITGuy04 | 04/21/04
WRONG  drichards1953 | 04/21/04
I hear your frustration...  FederalistPaperBoy | 04/21/04
I agree almost totally  IT_User | 04/21/04
Nice to hear from you!  FederalistPaperBoy | 04/21/04
True statement  Anton Philidor | 04/21/04
And Windows is straight forward???  are-you-thinking | 04/21/04
Hmmmm... Let's see here....  FederalistPaperBoy | 04/21/04
Acknowledgement...  mabricen | 04/21/04
90% Monopoly Stranglehold . . .  xero11 | 04/21/04
Time will tell its tale in this...  bchesmer | 04/21/04
What MS really means  graphic3211 | 04/21/04
Re: What MS really means  xero11 | 04/21/04
And no differnt than any other company out there  voska | 04/21/04
You're correct . . .  xero11 | 04/21/04
Linux and It's Components Does Have Flaws Check This Site TONS OF FLAWS  cancelled@... | 04/21/04
Dont worry there are windows ones too  cancelled@... | 04/21/04
Do you mean FOOL proof?  Spoon Jabber | 04/22/04
isn't that what we've been saying  Arrg | 04/21/04
what are they smoking?  +-Chris-+ | 04/21/04
I agree let's bring it on  kb0old1978 | 04/21/04
Forget competition...fix Hotmail first!!!!  esdrasf@... | 04/21/04
So in other words....  supoman | 04/21/04
MS , where is the beef?  wldrylie | 04/21/04
It doesn't matter  casbo | 04/21/04
ms thrives on competition  V Sanders | 04/21/04
Sooooo....  Spoon Jabber | 04/22/04
Sounds like a stupid skier beckoning an avalance !  mvaar | 04/21/04
Bit of a hollow threat  Spam-ZD | 04/21/04
The truest thing ever said from MicroSoft.  Outside T. Box | 04/22/04
MS, have you beat you penguin today?  FilledOut | 04/23/04

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