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By Declan McCullagh
Posted on ZDNet News: May 26, 2004 11:00:00 AM

File swappers concerned about getting in trouble with record labels over illegal downloads may soon have a major new worry: the U.S. Department of Justice.

A proposal that the Senate may vote on as early as next week would let federal prosecutors file civil lawsuits against suspected copyright infringers, with fines reaching tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The so-called Pirate Act is raising alarms among copyright lawyers and lobbyists for peer-to-peer firms, who have been eyeing the recording industry's lawsuits against thousands of peer-to-peer users with trepidation. The Justice Department, they say, could be far more ambitious.

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What's new:
A proposal that the full Senate could vote on as early as next week would let federal prosecutors file civil lawsuits against suspected copyright infringers.

Bottom line:
Copyright lawyers and lobbyists for peer-to-peer companies, who have been eyeing the recording industry's lawsuits against peer-to-peer users with trepidation, warn that the Justice Department could be far more ambitious.

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One influential proponent of the Pirate Act is urging precisely that. "Tens of thousands of continuing civil enforcement actions might be needed to generate the necessary deterrence," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said when announcing his support for the bill. "I doubt that any nongovernmental organization has the resources or moral authority to pursue such a campaign."

The Pirate Act represents the latest legislative priority for the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and its allies, who collectively argue that dramatic action is necessary to prevent file-swapping networks from continuing to blossom in popularity.

"We view this as a key component of an enforcement package," RIAA lobbyist Mitch Glazier said Tuesday. "If you're going to try to make sure that you have effective deterrence, then one of the tools you'll need is to make sure that prosecutors have flexibility."

Foes of the Pirate Act have been alarmed by the unusual alacrity of the proposal's legislative progress. It was introduced just two months ago, on March 25, and not one hearing was held before the Judiciary committee forwarded it to the full Senate for a vote a month later.

"This was an attempt to move it in a stealthy manner," said Philip Corwin, a lobbyist for Sharman Networks, which operates the Kazaa network. "I can't imagine that (Hollywood lobbyist) Jack Valenti or (RIAA chairman) Mitch Bainwol really wants to come before Congress and give testimony saying, 'We can't afford to bring these lawsuits. That's why we want the taxpayer to pay for them.' I can't believe they want to do that in public."

Potential P2P prosecutions
Underlying the public jockeying over the Pirate Act is a classic political war of wills between the federal government's legislative and executive branches.

Under a 1997 law called the No Electronic Theft Act, federal prosecutors can file criminal charges against peer-to-peer users who make a large number of songs available for download. A July 2002 letter from prominent congressmen to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft urged the prosecution of Americans who "allow mass copying from their computer over peer-to-peer networks."

But not one peer-to-peer criminal prosecution has taken place in the United States. The Justice Department has indicated that it won't target peer-to-peer networks for two reasons: Imprisoning file-swapping teens on felony charges isn't the department's top priority, and it's always difficult to make criminal charges stick.

The Pirate Act was crafted to respond to the Justice Department's concern. "Federal prosecutors have been hindered in their pursuit of pirates by the fact that they were limited to bringing criminal charges with high burdens of proof," Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said in March. "Prosecutors can rarely justify bringing criminal charges, and copyright owners have been left alone to fend for themselves, defending their rights only where they can afford to do so. In a world in which a computer and an Internet connection are all the tools you need to engage in massive piracy, this is an intolerable predicament."

The RIAA's Glazier said: "The idea was to give prosecutors the flexibility to decide whether to bring a civil case against somebody. Giving them a criminal fine with a criminal record was viewed as a fairly harsh penalty for the activity...You're still committing a crime. But (prosecutors) are given a flexible remedy so there's some proportionality."

For copyright holders, there's an additional bonus. Unlike when the RIAA files its own lawsuits against peer-to-peer users, such as the 493 defendants it announced this week, the Justice Department likely would be able to seek wiretaps to collect evidence about P2P infringement. Current wiretap law says electronic communications may be intercepted when a potential federal felony is being investigated.

"Corporate copyright welfare"
In addition, the Pirate Act gives Ashcroft six months to "develop a program to ensure effective implementation and use of the authority for civil enforcement of the copyright laws" and report back to Congress on how many civil lawsuits have been filed. The Justice Department would receive an extra $2 million for the fiscal year beginning in October.

"It represents yet another point in another very long line of major corporate copyright interests pushing for and receiving what amounts to significant corporate welfare," said Adam Eisgrau, a lobbyist for the P2P United trade association. "This legislation literally offloads the cost of enforcing copyrights traditionally borne by the copyright holder onto the federal government and therefore the taxpayers."

Last week, the Pirate Act had been considered for a floor vote under a process normally restricted for noncontroversial measures. But the vote didn't happen, which one foe of the bill attributed to opposition from Sen. Norm Coleman, a Republican from Minnesota.

Coleman has slammed the RIAA in the past for going too far in its fierce legal campaign against individual file swappers. A representative was unable to confirm Tuesday whether Coleman had placed a "hold" on the bill.

Critics also charge that the Pirate Act may invent a form of double jeopardy: It would let the RIAA sue the same people already sued by the Justice Department.

"The kinds of things we have a double-jeopardy doctrine to prevent seem to be implicated by the bill," said Jessica Litman, author of "Digital Copyright" and a law professor at Wayne State University. "I find it disturbing that the committee reported this out without at least having a hearing to consider some of the alternatives."

The RIAA points out that the bill does limit damages it can collect in a subsequent lawsuit, but opponents of the proposal said they weren't convinced.

"Why should someone be sued by the government and then be subject to a second lawsuit brought by a private party?" said Corwin, the Sharman Networks lobbyist. "The RIAA is settling most of these lawsuits. What's the Justice Department's policy going to be?"

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Whoa! This is serious stuff!  DarbyOhara | 05/26/04
Why...  JustMe99_z | 05/26/04
Because I already bought the CD  voska | 05/26/04
So your argument is....  JustMe99_z | 05/26/04
Pretty much, sure  MEMSmaker | 05/26/04
Are you....  DarbyOhara | 05/26/04
no, but  MEMSmaker | 05/26/04
Actually it's the RIAA who's doing the stealing...  WhoIsDaMan | 05/26/04
Interesting  JustMe99_z | 05/26/04
re: interesting  ryusen | 05/26/04
re: interesting  tic swayback | 05/26/04
Another theft example by the RIAA  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
NO, I how do I steal what I own???  voska | 05/26/04
So what about books, magazines, and software?  JustMe99_z | 05/26/04
Not belief I do own, it's law  voska | 05/26/04
I copy things out of books and magazines all the time  tic swayback | 05/26/04
there's that word gain...  ryusen | 05/26/04
It's not stealing  tic swayback | 05/26/04
What percentage?  rapson | 05/26/04
but...  ryusen | 05/26/04
Everyone I know who swaps files buys CDs  voska | 05/26/04
what perecentage  TokyoPete | 05/28/04
Profits to go even higher  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
Actually...  DarbyOhara | 05/26/04
Putting words into my mouth...  JustMe99_z | 05/26/04
You put your foot in your mouth!  DarbyOhara | 05/26/04
Software...  JustMe99_z | 05/26/04
you've been polite?  ryusen | 05/26/04
Actually..  Patrick Jones | 05/26/04
If you own the CD....  JustMe99_z | 05/26/04
Re-read the original post  Patrick Jones | 05/26/04
putting words in my mouth  TokyoPete | 05/28/04
Actually...giving away IS legal!  becksdark | 05/28/04
You bring up an interesting point...  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Legality  Letophoro | 05/26/04
re: legality  ryusen | 05/26/04
legality  TokyoPete | 05/28/04
giving and recieveing  ryusen | 05/28/04
Reading the draft  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
learn the laws...  ryusen | 05/26/04
people like p2p to much to give it up...  cybershoplifter | 05/26/04
That's not a good argument  rapson | 05/26/04
it worked for alcohol...  ryusen | 05/26/04
I'd be careful with that one too  rapson | 05/26/04
my argument isn't quite that...  ryusen | 05/26/04
Too true  rapson | 05/26/04
my answer:  ryusen | 05/26/04
To answer Carl  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
To TechDiva  rapson | 05/27/04
Back at ya, Carl  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
re: Carl  ryusen | 05/27/04
An Argument it was not...  cybershoplifter | 05/26/04
Let the RIAA clean up their own mess.  Patrick Jones | 05/26/04
Lets take a vote, I vote no  Arrg | 05/26/04
Re: Lets take a vote, I vote no  issthatso | 05/26/04
Then send a message!  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
morals?  lotta_anger | 05/26/04
Kindof a Hypocrite if you ask me  nucrash | 05/26/04
potheads are criminals?  DarbyOhara | 05/26/04
When did America become a socialist society?  dj_45_cal | 05/26/04
I would call it socialist  voska | 05/26/04
Agreed  dj_45_cal | 05/26/04
the only reason they are trying to stop p2p  ryusen | 05/26/04
how about HONESTY?  ryusen | 05/26/04
Not really...  dj_45_cal | 05/26/04
yes.. you could argue  ryusen | 05/26/04
Going up sad  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
Some points...  John L. Ries | 05/26/04
Government Moral Authority  Bill4 | 05/26/04
Orrin Hatch and the RIAA  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
Lets just ALL go to jail and be done with it...  BitTwiddler | 05/26/04
It wasn't that long ago....  DarbyOhara | 05/26/04
Wrong...  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Not wrong...  DarbyOhara | 05/26/04
You brought up the Civil War...  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Lobbying 101  Jeff Spicoli | 05/26/04
I stand corrected...  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
the masses  ryusen | 05/26/04
So where does the constitution say.......  middle of nowhere | 05/26/04
Read Jeff Spicoli's post  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Wrong...  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
Do you vote?  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
the problem...  ryusen | 05/26/04
The Solution???  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
my solution...  ryusen | 05/26/04
ZZ, are you suggesting "Campaign Finance Reform"?  Spoon Jabber | 05/27/04
re: Spoon  ryusen | 05/27/04
ZZ, I see the glass as half full  Spoon Jabber | 05/28/04
re: ranting  ryusen | 05/28/04
Just a minute ZZ  Spoon Jabber | 05/28/04
Right  debonair | 05/26/04
Lobbying.....  middle of nowhere | 05/26/04
Good Idea:  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Does not work.  bhanes@... | 05/26/04
Re: Lobbying  John L. Ries | 05/27/04
Clarification  John L. Ries | 05/27/04
Vote  Chad_z | 05/26/04
I agree  jdunn_z | 05/26/04
I agree  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
Vote  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
Take it further  Pinkerton | 05/26/04
Take it further  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
Aye  Pinkerton | 05/26/04
get rid of them...  ryusen | 05/26/04
I agree, but  Update victim | 05/26/04
Land of the Free  klmmicro | 05/26/04
Land of the Free  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
What is your solution  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
I don't have one, just a plan b.  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
In other words...  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
No, in my exact words  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
I agreed with you until ...  vince7 | 05/29/04
Investigate the Senate  Tim Patterson | 05/26/04
Could we apply "Conflict of Interest Laws" ? (NT)  Update victim | 05/26/04
Anybody else find it funny...  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
No one laughed...  StorageGuru | 05/26/04
I wasn't laughing then either  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Ah, the Pirates don't like enforcement of copyright law !  realitycheck101 | 05/26/04
Wrong Argument...  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Hey blind sheep  John E Wahd | 05/26/04
Justice ONLY for the rich!  George Mitchell | 05/26/04
Justice ONLY for the rich!  seosamh_z | 05/26/04
blah blah blah, PIRACY ROCKS  cybershoplifter | 05/26/04
Amen, Brother!  Stewart Cannon | 05/26/04
what abotu the crooks who've...  ryusen | 05/26/04
Defending the property rights...  Stewart Cannon | 05/26/04
defending consumer rights...  ryusen | 05/26/04
If you can answer yes to any of the following, you're guilty, too:  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
Depends on what you call "property"  John L. Ries | 05/27/04
And who will pay for that, pray tell?  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
it isn't just about ...  vince7 | 05/29/04
Read the Constitution  Update victim | 05/26/04
Bravo!  LongShipUser | 05/26/04
Interesting perspective...  Stewart Cannon | 05/26/04
The law isn't enforceable  amicus_curious | 05/26/04
I am not a pirate and i do not like it either  V Sanders | 05/26/04
Just remember your little rant...  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
Let's just vote this clown administration out!  Xunil_Sierutuf | 05/26/04
Bush is not the one behind this...  techboy_z | 05/26/04
Bush bad but this ain't his bag  cybershoplifter | 05/26/04
Justice Dept = Ashcroft = Bush  r7di697 | 05/26/04
Actually  vferrara | 05/26/04
Absolutely!  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
wager?  vince7 | 05/29/04
but Ashcroft is...  ryusen | 05/26/04
Thank You So Much  Proxima | 05/26/04
Not doing well????  voska | 05/26/04
My Point Exactly  Proxima | 05/26/04
let me get this straight...  ryusen | 05/26/04
Let Me Put This Straight  Proxima | 05/27/04
re:  ryusen | 05/27/04
Time for the definitions again:  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
I concur  John L. Ries | 05/27/04
you are welcome  vince7 | 05/29/04
I've stopped buying new music  Protector | 05/26/04
This is futile for the RIAA  chrislovesdana | 05/26/04
Because of the pot laws I can't buy it anymore!  cybershoplifter | 05/26/04
ROLF!!!!!!!  Nullifidian | 05/26/04
ROLF!!!!!!! ?  Anton Philidor | 05/26/04
That's because they are working the money thing  TechDiva_z | 05/27/04
"Proportionality"  Anton Philidor | 05/26/04
Proportionality fits, should have been applied here, too  Update victim | 05/26/04
A local issue  amicus_curious | 05/26/04
Absent a criminal conviction  amicus_curious | 05/26/04
This isn't an RIAA action ...  Anton Philidor | 05/26/04
For or against, write  potomac79 | 05/26/04
Sure, put it under citizen review board  FilledOut | 05/26/04
A Government of Thugs  r7di697 | 05/26/04
And why does this surprise anyone?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/26/04